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Memories and Portraits
CHAPTER XI - TALK AND TALKERS: SECOND PAPER
Robert Louis Stevenson
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       _ IN the last paper there was perhaps too much about mere debate; and
       there was nothing said at all about that kind of talk which is
       merely luminous and restful, a higher power of silence, the quiet
       of the evening shared by ruminating friends. There is something,
       aside from personal preference, to be alleged in support of this
       omission. Those who are no chimney-cornerers, who rejoice in the
       social thunderstorm, have a ground in reason for their choice.
       They get little rest indeed; but restfulness is a quality for
       cattle; the virtues are all active, life is alert, and it is in
       repose that men prepare themselves for evil. On the other hand,
       they are bruised into a knowledge of themselves and others; they
       have in a high degree the fencer's pleasure in dexterity displayed
       and proved; what they get they get upon life's terms, paying for it
       as they go; and once the talk is launched, they are assured of
       honest dealing from an adversary eager like themselves. The
       aboriginal man within us, the cave-dweller, still lusty as when he
       fought tooth and nail for roots and berries, scents this kind of
       equal battle from afar; it is like his old primaeval days upon the
       crags, a return to the sincerity of savage life from the
       comfortable fictions of the civilised. And if it be delightful to
       the Old Man, it is none the less profitable to his younger brother,
       the conscientious gentleman I feel never quite sure of your urbane
       and smiling coteries; I fear they indulge a man's vanities in
       silence, suffer him to encroach, encourage him on to be an ass, and
       send him forth again, not merely contemned for the moment, but
       radically more contemptible than when he entered. But if I have a
       flushed, blustering fellow for my opposite, bent on carrying a
       point, my vanity is sure to have its ears rubbed, once at least, in
       the course of the debate. He will not spare me when we differ; he
       will not fear to demonstrate my folly to my face.
       For many natures there is not much charm in the still, chambered
       society, the circle of bland countenances, the digestive silence,
       the admired remark, the flutter of affectionate approval. They
       demand more atmosphere and exercise; "a gale upon their spirits,"
       as our pious ancestors would phrase it; to have their wits well
       breathed in an uproarious Valhalla. And I suspect that the choice,
       given their character and faults, is one to be defended. The
       purely wise are silenced by facts; they talk in a clear atmosphere,
       problems lying around them like a view in nature; if they can be
       shown to be somewhat in the wrong, they digest the reproof like a
       thrashing, and make better intellectual blood. They stand
       corrected by a whisper; a word or a glance reminds them of the
       great eternal law. But it is not so with all. Others in
       conversation seek rather contact with their fellow-men than
       increase of knowledge or clarity of thought. The drama, not the
       philosophy, of life is the sphere of their intellectual activity.
       Even when they pursue truth, they desire as much as possible of
       what we may call human scenery along the road they follow. They
       dwell in the heart of life; the blood sounding in their ears, their
       eyes laying hold of what delights them with a brutal avidity that
       makes them blind to all besides, their interest riveted on people,
       living, loving, talking, tangible people. To a man of this
       description, the sphere of argument seems very pale and ghostly.
       By a strong expression, a perturbed countenance, floods of tears,
       an insult which his conscience obliges him to swallow, he is
       brought round to knowledge which no syllogism would have conveyed
       to him. His own experience is so vivid, he is so superlatively
       conscious of himself, that if, day after day, he is allowed to
       hector and hear nothing but approving echoes, he will lose his hold
       on the soberness of things and take himself in earnest for a god.
       Talk might be to such an one the very way of moral ruin; the school
       where he might learn to be at once intolerable and ridiculous.
       This character is perhaps commoner than philosophers suppose. And
       for persons of that stamp to learn much by conversation, they must
       speak with their superiors, not in intellect, for that is a
       superiority that must be proved, but in station. If they cannot
       find a friend to bully them for their good, they must find either
       an old man, a woman, or some one so far below them in the
       artificial order of society, that courtesy may he particularly
       exercised.
       The best teachers are the aged. To the old our mouths are always
       partly closed; we must swallow our obvious retorts and listen.
       They sit above our heads, on life's raised dais, and appeal at once
       to our respect and pity. A flavour of the old school, a touch of
       something different in their manner - which is freer and rounder,
       if they come of what is called a good family, and often more timid
       and precise if they are of the middle class - serves, in these
       days, to accentuate the difference of age and add a distinction to
       gray hairs. But their superiority is founded more deeply than by
       outward marks or gestures. They are before us in the march of man;
       they have more or less solved the irking problem; they have battled
       through the equinox of life; in good and evil they have held their
       course; and now, without open shame, they near the crown and
       harbour. It may be we have been struck with one of fortune's
       darts; we can scarce be civil, so cruelly is our spirit tossed.
       Yet long before we were so much as thought upon, the like calamity
       befell the old man or woman that now, with pleasant humour, rallies
       us upon our inattention, sitting composed in the holy evening of
       man's life, in the clear shining after rain. We grow ashamed of
       our distresses, new and hot and coarse, like villainous roadside
       brandy; we see life in aerial perspective, under the heavens of
       faith; and out of the worst, in the mere presence of contented
       elders, look forward and take patience. Fear shrinks before them
       "like a thing reproved," not the flitting and ineffectual fear of
       death, but the instant, dwelling terror of the responsibilities and
       revenges of life. Their speech, indeed, is timid; they report
       lions in the path; they counsel a meticulous footing; but their
       serene, marred faces are more eloquent and tell another story.
       Where they have gone, we will go also, not very greatly fearing;
       what they have endured unbroken, we also, God helping us, will make
       a shift to bear.
       Not only is the presence of the aged in itself remedial, but their
       minds are stored with antidotes, wisdom's simples, plain
       considerations overlooked by youth. They have matter to
       communicate, be they never so stupid. Their talk is not merely
       literature, it is great literature; classic in virtue of the
       speaker's detachment, studded, like a book of travel, with things
       we should not otherwise have learnt. In virtue, I have said, of
       the speaker's detachment, - and this is why, of two old men, the
       one who is not your father speaks to you with the more sensible
       authority; for in the paternal relation the oldest have lively
       interests and remain still young. Thus I have known two young men
       great friends; each swore by the other's father; the father of each
       swore by the other lad; and yet each pair of parent and child were
       perpetually by the ears. This is typical: it reads like the germ
       of some kindly comedy.
       The old appear in conversation in two characters: the critically
       silent and the garrulous anecdotic. The last is perhaps what we
       look for; it is perhaps the more instructive. An old gentleman,
       well on in years, sits handsomely and naturally in the bow-window
       of his age, scanning experience with reverted eye; and chirping and
       smiling, communicates the accidents and reads the lesson of his
       long career. Opinions are strengthened, indeed, but they are also
       weeded out in the course of years. What remains steadily present
       to the eye of the retired veteran in his hermitage, what still
       ministers to his content, what still quickens his old honest heart
       - these are "the real long-lived things" that Whitman tells us to
       prefer. Where youth agrees with age, not where they differ, wisdom
       lies; and it is when the young disciple finds his heart to beat in
       tune with his gray-bearded teacher's that a lesson may be learned.
       I have known one old gentleman, whom I may name, for he in now
       gathered to his stock - Robert Hunter, Sheriff of Dumbarton, and
       author of an excellent law-book still re-edited and republished.
       Whether he was originally big or little is more than I can guess.
       When I knew him he was all fallen away and fallen in; crooked and
       shrunken; buckled into a stiff waistcoat for support; troubled by
       ailments, which kept him hobbling in and out of the room; one foot
       gouty; a wig for decency, not for deception, on his head; close
       shaved, except under his chin - and for that he never failed to
       apologise, for it went sore against the traditions of his life.
       You can imagine how he would fare in a novel by Miss Mather; yet
       this rag of a Chelsea veteran lived to his last year in the
       plenitude of all that is best in man, brimming with human kindness,
       and staunch as a Roman soldier under his manifold infirmities. You
       could not say that he had lost his memory, for he would repeat
       Shakespeare and Webster and Jeremy Taylor and Burke by the page
       together; but the parchment was filled up, there was no room for
       fresh inscriptions, and he was capable of repeating the same
       anecdote on many successive visits. His voice survived in its full
       power, and he took a pride in using it. On his last voyage as
       Commissioner of lighthouses, he hailed a ship at sea and made
       himself clearly audible without a speaking trumpet, ruffling the
       while with a proper vanity in his achievement. He had a habit of
       eking out his words with interrogative hems, which was puzzling and
       a little wearisome, suited ill with his appearance, and seemed a
       survival from some former stage of bodily portliness. Of yore,
       when he was a great pedestrian and no enemy to good claret, he may
       have pointed with these minute guns his allocutions to the bench.
       His humour was perfectly equable, set beyond the reach of fate;
       gout, rheumatism, stone and gravel might have combined their forces
       against that frail tabernacle, but when I came round on Sunday
       evening, he would lay aside Jeremy Taylor's LIFE OF CHRIST and
       greet me with the same open brow, the same kind formality of
       manner. His opinions and sympathies dated the man almost to a
       decade. He had begun life, under his mother's influence, as an
       admirer of Junius, but on maturer knowledge had transferred his
       admiration to Burke. He cautioned me, with entire gravity, to be
       punctilious in writing English; never to forget that I was a
       Scotchman, that English was a foreign tongue, and that if I
       attempted the colloquial, I should certainly, be shamed: the remark
       was apposite, I suppose, in the days of David Hume. Scott was too
       new for him; he had known the author - known him, too, for a Tory;
       and to the genuine classic a contemporary is always something of a
       trouble. He had the old, serious love of the play; had even, as he
       was proud to tell, played a certain part in the history of
       Shakespearian revivals, for he had successfully pressed on Murray,
       of the old Edinburgh Theatre, the idea of producing Shakespeare's
       fairy pieces with great scenic display. A moderate in religion, he
       was much struck in the last years of his life by a conversation
       with two young lads, revivalists "H'm," he would say - "new to me.
       I have had - h'm - no such experience." It struck him, not with
       pain, rather with a solemn philosophic interest, that he, a
       Christian as he hoped, and a Christian of so old a standing, should
       hear these young fellows talking of his own subject, his own
       weapons that he had fought the battle of life with, - "and - h'm -
       not understand." In this wise and graceful attitude he did justice
       to himself and others, reposed unshaken in his old beliefs, and
       recognised their limits without anger or alarm. His last recorded
       remark, on the last night of his life, was after he had been
       arguing against Calvinism with his minister and was interrupted by
       an intolerable pang. "After all," he said, "of all the 'isms, I
       know none so bad as rheumatism." My own last sight of him was some
       time before, when we dined together at an inn; he had been on
       circuit, for he stuck to his duties like a chief part of his
       existence; and I remember it as the only occasion on which he ever
       soiled his lips with slang - a thing he loathed. We were both
       Roberts; and as we took our places at table, he addressed me with a
       twinkle: "We are just what you would call two bob." He offered me
       port, I remember, as the proper milk of youth; spoke of "twenty-
       shilling notes"; and throughout the meal was full of old-world
       pleasantry and quaintness, like an ancient boy on a holiday. But
       what I recall chiefly was his confession that he had never read
       OTHELLO to an end. Shakespeare was his continual study. He loved
       nothing better than to display his knowledge and memory by adducing
       parallel passages from Shakespeare, passages where the same word
       was employed, or the same idea differently treated. But OTHELLO
       had beaten him. "That noble gentleman and that noble lady - h'm -
       too painful for me." The same night the hoardings were covered
       with posters, "Burlesque of OTHELLO," and the contrast blazed up in
       my mind like a bonfire. An unforgettable look it gave me into that
       kind man's soul. His acquaintance was indeed a liberal and pious
       education. All the humanities were taught in that bare dining-room
       beside his gouty footstool. He was a piece of good advice; he was
       himself the instance that pointed and adorned his various talk.
       Nor could a young man have found elsewhere a place so set apart
       from envy, fear, discontent, or any of the passions that debase; a
       life so honest and composed; a soul like an ancient violin, so
       subdued to harmony, responding to a touch in music - as in that
       dining-room, with Mr. Hunter chatting at the eleventh hour, under
       the shadow of eternity, fearless and gentle.
       The second class of old people are not anecdotic; they are rather
       hearers than talkers, listening to the young with an amused and
       critical attention. To have this sort of intercourse to
       perfection, I think we must go to old ladies. Women are better
       hearers than men, to begin with; they learn, I fear in anguish, to
       bear with the tedious and infantile vanity of the other sex; and we
       will take more from a woman than even from the oldest man in the
       way of biting comment. Biting comment is the chief part, whether
       for profit or amusement, in this business. The old lady that I
       have in my eye is a very caustic speaker, her tongue, after years
       of practice, in absolute command, whether for silence or attack.
       If she chance to dislike you, you will be tempted to curse the
       malignity of age. But if you chance to please even slightly, you
       will be listened to with a particular laughing grace of sympathy,
       and from time to time chastised, as if in play, with a parasol as
       heavy as a pole-axe. It requires a singular art, as well as the
       vantage-ground of age, to deal these stunning corrections among the
       coxcombs of the young. The pill is disguised in sugar of wit; it
       is administered as a compliment - if you had not pleased, you would
       not have been censured; it is a personal affair - a hyphen, A TRAIT
       D'UNION, between you and your censor; age's philandering, for her
       pleasure and your good. Incontestably the young man feels very
       much of a fool; but he must be a perfect Malvolio, sick with self-
       love, if he cannot take an open buffet and still smile. The
       correction of silence is what kills; when you know you have
       transgressed, and your friend says nothing and avoids your eye. If
       a man were made of gutta-percha, his heart would quail at such a
       moment. But when the word is out, the worst is over; and a fellow
       with any good-humour at all may pass through a perfect hail of
       witty criticism, every bare place on his soul hit to the quick with
       a shrewd missile, and reappear, as if after a dive, tingling with a
       fine moral reaction, and ready, with a shrinking readiness, one-
       third loath, for a repetition of the discipline.
       There are few women, not well sunned and ripened, and perhaps
       toughened, who can thus stand apart from a man and say the true
       thing with a kind of genial cruelty. Still there are some - and I
       doubt if there be any man who can return the compliment. The class
       of man represented by Vernon Whitford in THE EGOIST says, indeed,
       the true thing, but he says it stockishly. Vernon is a noble
       fellow, and makes, by the way, a noble and instructive contrast to
       Daniel Deronda; his conduct is the conduct of a man of honour; but
       we agree with him, against our consciences, when he remorsefully
       considers "its astonishing dryness." He is the best of men, but
       the best of women manage to combine all that and something more.
       Their very faults assist them; they are helped even by the
       falseness of their position in life. They can retire into the
       fortified camp of the proprieties. They can touch a subject and
       suppress it. The most adroit employ a somewhat elaborate reserve
       as a means to be frank, much as they wear gloves when they shake
       hands. But a man has the full responsibility of his freedom,
       cannot evade a question, can scarce be silent without rudeness,
       must answer for his words upon the moment, and is not seldom left
       face to face with a damning choice, between the more or less
       dishonourable wriggling of Deronda and the downright woodenness of
       Vernon Whitford.
       But the superiority of women is perpetually menaced; they do not
       sit throned on infirmities like the old; they are suitors as well
       as sovereigns; their vanity is engaged, their affections are too
       apt to follow; and hence much of the talk between the sexes
       degenerates into something unworthy of the name. The desire to
       please, to shine with a certain softness of lustre and to draw a
       fascinating picture of oneself, banishes from conversation all that
       is sterling and most of what is humorous. As soon as a strong
       current of mutual admiration begins to flow, the human interest
       triumphs entirely over the intellectual, and the commerce of words,
       consciously or not, becomes secondary to the commencing of eyes.
       But even where this ridiculous danger is avoided, and a man and
       woman converse equally and honestly, something in their nature or
       their education falsifies the strain. An instinct prompts them to
       agree; and where that is impossible, to agree to differ. Should
       they neglect the warning, at the first suspicion of an argument,
       they find themselves in different hemispheres. About any point of
       business or conduct, any actual affair demanding settlement, a
       woman will speak and listen, hear and answer arguments, not only
       with natural wisdom, but with candour and logical honesty. But if
       the subject of debate be something in the air, an abstraction, an
       excuse for talk, a logical Aunt Sally, then may the male debater
       instantly abandon hope; he may employ reason, adduce facts, be
       supple, be smiling, be angry, all shall avail him nothing; what the
       woman said first, that (unless she has forgotten it) she will
       repeat at the end. Hence, at the very junctures when a talk
       between men grows brighter and quicker and begins to promise to
       bear fruit, talk between the sexes is menaced with dissolution.
       The point of difference, the point of interest, is evaded by the
       brilliant woman, under a shower of irrelevant conversational
       rockets; it is bridged by the discreet woman with a rustle of silk,
       as she passes smoothly forward to the nearest point of safety. And
       this sort of prestidigitation, juggling the dangerous topic out of
       sight until it can be reintroduced with safety in an altered shape,
       is a piece of tactics among the true drawing-room queens.
       The drawing-room is, indeed, an artificial place; it is so by our
       choice and for our sins. The subjection of women; the ideal
       imposed upon them from the cradle, and worn, like a hair-shirt,
       with so much constancy; their motherly, superior tenderness to
       man's vanity and self-importance; their managing arts - the arts of
       a civilised slave among good-natured barbarians - are all painful
       ingredients and all help to falsify relations. It is not till we
       get clear of that amusing artificial scene that genuine relations
       are founded, or ideas honestly compared. In the garden, on the
       road or the hillside, or TETE-A-TETE and apart from interruptions,
       occasions arise when we may learn much from any single woman; and
       nowhere more often than in married life. Marriage is one long
       conversation, chequered by disputes. The disputes are valueless;
       they but ingrain the difference; the heroic heart of woman
       prompting her at once to nail her colours to the mast. But in the
       intervals, almost unconsciously and with no desire to shine, the
       whole material of life is turned over and over, ideas are struck
       out and shared, the two persons more and more adapt their notions
       one to suit the other, and in process of time, without sound of
       trumpet, they conduct each other into new worlds of thought. _